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Post by Shen Ha on Aug 7, 2011 1:32:50 GMT
Justin your an ass my dude. Whatever, guess I am out of this fight Brain. Your on your own. Did what i could No worries, buddy, you did a great job to start out. If you want to ride to Shen Ha at the front lines, I'll delegate some men to you. I have a ton of men to manage on my own here. And Derek, very well. Declining now will lower morale, as Wu troops will see nobody answering the challenge as cowardice, and Wei troops will fight with more vigor.
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Post by Ryou Kin on Aug 7, 2011 1:39:25 GMT
Should be interesting to see whether or not Justin's horsebowmen at least can catch up to Ku Ren. Or any of my 30 light cav chasing him lol They wont. Light Cavalry are the only unit that can catch horse bowmen, not the other way around. So your light cavalry is the only unit that can only keep up. Justin your an ass my dude. Whatever, guess I am out of this fight Brain. Your on your own. Did what i could No worries, buddy, you did a great job to start out. If you want to ride to Shen Ha at the front lines, I'll delegate some men to you. I have a ton of men to manage on my own here. And Derek, very well. Declining now will lower morale, as Wu troops will see nobody answering the challenge as cowardice, and Wei troops will fight with more vigor. I donno. We will see. Might be best for u to keep them.A front;ine battle do sound like fun.
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Post by Sun Quan on Aug 7, 2011 2:24:02 GMT
According to the post order, Li Wang's post is taken before Ryou's, so this is a map ofthe situation after his post; Ignore that red splotch in the north covering up the name. idkwtf that is, just a clicking mistake I'm assuming. The red in the north is my main army, lead by Sun Quan, advancing towards the main Wei body. The smaller group is the 1,000 cavalry units reuniting with Pang He (The purple), sandwiching Ryou Kin with his hostage of Zhangba. Accordingly, I don't really see how he can retreat anyway but into the loving arms of my men Li Wang's position is where I think it is, but he can confirm that himself, I may have mistook his post. This is mostly for the northern conflict.
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Post by Sam on Aug 7, 2011 2:38:49 GMT
My head hurts.
I have no idea what the hell is going on. Those troop positions have just placed me in the bewilderment.
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Post by Li Wang on Aug 7, 2011 7:51:08 GMT
Justin, your map confuses me too (too many different colors), but I am where you've got me on the map.
Brian (and to a MUCH smaller extent Kin): While I have no doubt that some of Brian's assumptions at least will be correct, it's really not permitted to make them in your posts (for example, while Shen Ha might attempt to make a charge unaided through Li Wang's frontline, Li Wang would most likely stop him before he got very far and caused any serious damage).
Also, another reason I had Li Wang decline the duel was because with Zhangba up north, there would be nobody to take command (storywise) of his troops should he die, or if the battle commences anyway.
"No godmodding - No making assumptions of another players move/action etc. You may well suggest what you attack could do should it be absolutely perfectly executed, but you cannot say what it did within your post.
Good post summary - Xiahou Dun orders a volley of arrows, hopefully it would strike a deadly blow to enemy frontline.
Bad post summary -Xiahou Dun orders a volley of arrows, without a doubt it would kill the main front line and surely the enemy officer who foolishly stood amongst it.
No Powerplaying (unless for a storyline) - Powerplaying is where you act like you cannot be beaten. You can be beaten, you will likely taste defeat at least once on this site as well, its natural. There is no one roleplayer out there who can put his or her hand up and say he or she will always win, and if there is they are lying to themselves. Powerplaying within a storyline is slightly different however, it may happen on a rare occasion or more and in these circumstances it will only happen if accepted by the majority of members on the site. Should a story-base powerplay happen, then it would only last for a battle or more (Battle as in part of a campaign to take a city, just to remind anyone still too familiar with older terms)."
-The Rules, Chapter 4
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Post by Ryou Kin on Aug 7, 2011 8:03:53 GMT
wow Justin. Nice map of where you like everyone to be. Li Wang can confirm his position but Brain and I cant? Yeah right dude.
I sent Monty my positions, and movements ever since the start of the battle.
And your squeezing me with 10 horse bowmen -_- that easily get raped by Light Cavalry on top of that. Yeah....right.
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Post by Boydie on Aug 7, 2011 13:56:28 GMT
I'd say that troop movement was about right after re-reading the battle again. :/
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Post by Sun Quan on Aug 7, 2011 16:22:17 GMT
Kin, if we want to get technical, no one knows where Brian's troops are since he didn't have any until the 3rd round.
And your shit is exactly where your ambush was, according to your own descriptions.
And if you read my post, they are firing into your back, not charging in, you fucking pretentious cock.
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Post by Sun Quan on Aug 7, 2011 16:27:14 GMT
I never said my map was be-all end all, ANYWHERE, in my post. So instead of being a little pissy bitch about it (Since i'm the only person willing to even try to make a map showing where I think people are), you could constructively try to show me.
THe past two turns I've moved my army 4 hexes, which from the front of our deployment area, is easily within range of where my army is now. Your army moved half the map in your opening turn to set up an ambush and haven't moved until THIS TURN, meaning it would run smack dab into my army.
So yeah, shut the fuck up.
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Post by Ryou Kin on Aug 7, 2011 17:27:25 GMT
Better yet, if you have a problem with some Justin, PM me then. Since you love being the ass about everything.
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Post by Shen Ha on Aug 7, 2011 17:33:50 GMT
Wow. A whole lot of THIS, eh?
Justin: I have nothing against that map. Seems right enough to me, though I haven't been paying too much attention to Ryu Kin's movements. The main battle looks fine. One long line of Wei troops against two smaller lines of Wu troops, which will lead into two battles.
Derek: You put your archers exposed out in the front, in range to fire at my men (who in truth I never even said were in range). I made a cavalry charge and then got out and reformed. Be more sure with where you put your archers next time. It's not godmodding to exploit a tactical mistake.
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Post by Li Wang on Aug 7, 2011 17:44:49 GMT
Kin that's just where Justin and I are assuming everything is based off of everybody's posts. And seeing as you didn't say your cavalry didn't split into two groups until AFTER Justin and I both posted, that means Justin squeezed you (even if it's not going to be all that effective with only 10 horsebows vs. 48 light cav). And since we fought just inside of the swamp according to your own post, your position, and that of Pang He's, is correct.
Brian didn't post ANYTHING, not even troops numbers, so I think it's fair enough for us to assume that that's where he is; within the starting area, especially as he didn't move at all until Justin and I started to attack.
Ku Ren will probably be captured by the mass of cavalry chasing him, which includes 510 horsebowmen who can keep him in range (assuming that 510 arrows being launched against 48 men PER VOLLEY ends up leaving anybody alive) as well 30 light cavalry from me, who again can keep him in range. According to troop descriptions, even Elite Heavy cavalry aren't much better armored than light cavalry; their horses get cloth chest and head guards and I think the soldiers might have a few pounds of extra armor. Ku Ren isn't going to last long, though I can see Ryou and Lu Kong escaping into the Wei lines. Though if Sima Yi's treatment of Kang Ren was any indication, I don't see that being a good idea for them
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Post by Shen Ha on Aug 7, 2011 17:56:04 GMT
Mikey told me before that light cavalry are the fastest of the cavalry and can outrun heavy cavalry and elite cavalry. If that helps at all, I'm sure he'll still suffer losses but escape is possible for him. Also, I don't see how Sima Yi killing a bandit on the other side of the country has anything to do with this battle. Don't you try and sway my men OOC, Derek!!
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Post by Li Wang on Aug 7, 2011 17:57:21 GMT
Justin, when you update that, could you add my onagers and catapults to it? Onagers are in the back of the village my army is lined up through, catapults are 2 hexes behind them, just outside the other village.
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Post by Ryou Kin on Aug 7, 2011 18:14:08 GMT
Already know what happen to Kang Ren but that was pretty dumb on his end. lol It would be a lot easier if people just post their locations rather than someone else assuming where everyone is at.
I did post that my guys splits into four different groups. Ten of which stayed in the forest hex as a rear guard, which I also posted of showed with my images. Arrows represent which way they are facing.
Plus I don't think that those horse bowmen would shot all at the same time. I know fo sho that his cavalry wont be able to catch light cavalry. Li Wang can keep up for sure we all know this.
Oh and with ambush you always set up a security element, which is those rear light cavalry who would of course see the waves of freaking horses.
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